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so there's a video the sooner time see and welcome back to going, undergoing broadcast signal around the world from the u. a. in the heart of the middle east on the day 38 years ago. the well did confirmation of these rails may be 200 nuclear weapons. good to see the usa apartheid side of africa. and one of hollywood stop film produces israel has to this day know, come clean. the new k, a whistle blower motor kind of a new new would be honey draft and kid that from london by room for his revelations before decades on torture in his riley prison. the world today tends to the prospect of the use of those nuclear weapons by u. s. u k e u back to israel. this off to re run finally retaliated for the gods,
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a genocide. the test run this as a nation of palestine chief negotiator attacks on their radiant diplomats and the killing of thousands and babies to a res iconic lebanese resistance lead to as i less route. i would circle genocide, jo, all it goes to iris now, presiding over millions, display skilled a wounded, mostly women and children right across this region. i'm joined now from rome by alice to cook. you k, diplomat and full. they you foreign policy chief advisor. he's a founder and director of the baby read base complex for him and the order of resistance, the essence of the as the mist revolution. thank you so much alice, of joining us again. it's been a while. lots happened in the era as you're on the going on the route. i think at the beginning of this year, you can see from the headlines, there's only one of go story. and that's a do by based a gulf. the news you run attacks that israel vfc, the japanese paper thing, israel steps up a tax on the wrong proxies as if they're all just their own proxies everywhere. i
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guess 1st your take on whether there is now there's no real us defendants. they said, the largest fleet, the united states has in this area and then at least in the mediterranean, didn't seem to scare you wrong. no, i think that was deaf. would have been a mistake. i don't think there's been a lot of talk about it wrong being frightened or scared or does to it boss we invest. in fact, it was a calculated decision made or given the wrong by the leadership. this, it would not want to cause a regional white wall, big war and other words in the region. but for all sorts of reasons, i mean not because they were particularly fright deposit, they've been preparing for it for about 20 years. but simply because
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a lot of this happening and the very much aware of being very closely in touch with most of i am as you know, the payment issue is ready coming to a head of the moment. this in the most moments of crisis for the united states facing a major, major defeat of the us, the and the secondly, because the brick summit is coming up on the 25th of this month. and i think that both the most go and of course, basing would like this to parcels. well, and to be a substantial meeting with many new initiative, some of us. yeah, i mean i, i do want to get back to this region, but india is foreign minister j sancho is width binds and i'm not sure whether anyone is with the bible as it was in the white house. and it goes to india has
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a huge and international know it's a transport car, your operation going which iran is an important, essential part to the united states. understand what's happening in the brakes and what will be discussed in cars on the tool or that just signaling look a all american interests in the region should activate against the threats of a run. just when india is doing a massive deal with a ron. as is russia, and as is china i, i don't think that the moment there is much understanding of the middle east. i think most of the middle east textbooks that were in the state department and other places have been removed. they have been removed and we have a being run essentially by people who do not have much expertise in it. or if they have expertise like pay most cost time,
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it is really from the is really perspective problem from the united states perspective. that's the us on why it was an idea for us us. it basically is rails man in the abiding cabinet. yes, he has, or he has an office in the white house. a he moved from state to buckland, where he did the demarcation negotiations with lebanon above maritime areas of exploration. and then he went into the white house with one secretary and the team and the state department was dissolved as i understand it. so he's sort of all breaks is a one man band i to the white house. yeah, well, i want to explore whether it is incompetence or it is actually by design. i'll give it a but just briefly of when it comes to the incompetent side of things, a rookie mistake by president possess scan of iran to come out with the bizarre statement that somehow he'd had ej assurances that restraint would be rewarded. restraint from iran would be rewarded in the light of the smile on the mud or in
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the air on which we between the reward it was was enough for all as estimation. i mean basically basically i suppose you will put it in those terms. but as it has been, the was sort of there is politics involved and less than 10 are wrong. and i think that um, when, as ash can, who doesn't have that sort of experience was made for president. he was pretty well captured to can we say buys a basically buys as i read some cut to me sort of a crew in, in iraq. and so he did. and to his embarrassment, he did believe assurance is that he was given a by you your appear on an american. both are see is that the would be
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substantially relief of sanctions for iran. and that would be a guaranteed c star and garza on times that would be acceptable to hum us. and as he said, it is into view of 2 words. they lied, none of it was true. um, so this being a lot of anger in iran and a lot of soul searching soul searching because iran has been very careful and it's reactions it is shown great. so for strange, really dating back to the killing because of custom. so the money, but also off to the attack on the syrian on the consulate in syria and damascus, where it raining and generally was killed. but at that point, they did mitigate very much what drones and miss house 5.
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but it was costly orchestration and of the lot here and who was the part of ministers that time off to it's spoken. he said that you know what we call to get this right. i mean, in the sense that we are trying to be restraining and lost a lot of this conflict to escalates into a wider war. but we've called to maintain that sort of sense of deterrence. and we've got to maintain a sense of strength. so there is of been a lot of criticism. this is a restraint, much advocated if you like, by that or a full missed wing been did wrong, has contributed to some extent, not playing but contributed, perhaps to israel feeling and pod to be able to take out the whole of that has put a leadership, including said house on the throttle and then to attack the level of across the
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board. i mean uh from all sides of the level. and i mean, is really suffering the sort of because a treat whereby they are dividing up their routes into sort of sectors and telling people to evacuate one sector, move to another sector. and then when they caught the, as i told to move back, because that sector is about to be attack. so there are more than the 1000000 displaced from the homes and the something a large number, i think 1500 killed them about 8000 injured. but these are not as bullet people the so basically ordinary lebanese that being said to be connected with, says paula. and of course we have the same, the same justifications. oh yes. um his bowler is hiding behind the people. he's using them as human shields in every house. there is they produce this fantastic
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idea of a sort of missile at b and b, whereby lebanese was sort of keeping me solace in the homes and getting a small fee from his bullet for doing so. this is all nonsense complete nonsense because i was in lebanon in 2006, and before and often during the war, and even before the war has put a to great effort to make sure the one know up and saw o quit, indeed military assets that were anywhere near the level of these villages or cost, so they kept them quite away from it. so the idea that they know having this house in the attic and things is just a typical propaganda. but it has no no basis. but it's being used for the tax and the impacts are as in gaza, intended to put pressure on the civilian life in these population. imagining that
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back end to turn on on as bullet, in fact, fall more than in 2006. the eliza bernice with just the usual exceptions that's come out to them. suppose it did. and with the, for our minister and the president think, you know, we stand as while this is an attack on the 11th. this isn't the attack on, on as bo, we are being attacked right up through the back car and across a level and, and didn't pay a route. so it's very different. but yes, there is a very awful lot of criticism of iran and the wrong is having to look very good. half the, you know, there is a real guy that i make, you know, i don't want to make it sound so simplistic like you know, but it is, this is just contributed to it. i mean, those are ro dilemma. you can use self restraint. if you like, in order to try and avoid going to abroad a will,
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that is in the interest they run the interest of russia as the interest of or of the region not to have a full. i'll, i'll turn out will. but at the same time, the other side cause that dilemma is that actually by too much. so for a strength, you end up ways if you like escalation and you end up with a wall anyway. and sometimes you find the bike cell for strain. i actually will comes to you even whether you wanted to know. so the question was, and this is why i think we had this officer and it was the honest, as it came from the supreme national security council. i just remind viewers that possession who has had a lot of publicity, who has no say in these decisions. this is not his field for him. the policy security policy lies in calling with the supreme national security council under
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the supremely that the supreme leader makes the laws decision most the press stuff . he's basically concerned with domestic administration of the state, but know with foreign policy and off with security. how's that work? i'll stop you back more from the former advisor on middle east issues, the foreign policy chief ivy as a loaner. after this break the people into disgusted with what's going on with that, sending huge amounts of money into the lensky in terms of weapons to kill russians when actually we're taking money away from people that have been one of the big things in the tell you that i know about domestically is that the cover labor
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government have taken one and a half 1000000000 pounds away from the the plug it back to going underground. i'm still here with us decrypt for the british diplomat and founder and going director of the baby based conflicts for him . house during part one, you were talking to me about the desk and not having a foreign policy control in there on, i mean now give me, i mean i lived in terra and he does have power to resign at any rate, but as regards and i should also add disregard, spare, where we moved to gauge to the side of the national security measures as a true. so maybe he was power to it's, i don't know, but there's a lot of, i mean it's, i barely pro tissue, but i just wanted to on the line. i mean it, ron is not alone in the style. lemme which i well did rush, i give them bad advice, reflected rush, i give them bad advice. make sure i stood by me just to make sure to know the day
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before as well. you know, russia has had had the same dilemma, and during the war in new grade, there been times where they've had setbacks reverse thoughts. and they've had to stop and think and reassess. and, and actually the been changes in the, in the senior military leadership in moscow. so, i mean, these things are not confined to iran, is the general opprobrium about this dilemma that you know, or if you act with restrain, it'll get written wrongly interpreted this weakness and actually bring the boy you don't want onto you. that is the danger. and so possess cams as being much criticized for those comments that he made and for in the sense almost go behind the backups of the system to talk about them in the, with the american some with the europeans. because he does not have a mandate to do that. he does not have that monday that lives with the security
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council a lot with him. and it was the supreme leader who had ordered, if you liked the attack in retribution for the killing of neil. and it came from the tulsa full from the head of the security council. so i'm, there is a lot of sort of concern. i'm sure it will pause, but i think that's one of the reasons we have what we had uh the um, the recent mississauga attacked in, in, in iran, as iran in israel, as the iran wanted to recuperate. the sort of sense of to tyrants a sense that they are serious and that also to show that they have that capability . and so miss all because of course, their restraint on the 13th of april when they followed miss house full wasn't misinterpreted completely as well. we'll just, you know, they will not, uh, 9 to 9 percent, but enough to buy
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a us above the defense systems. and so now they've had to demonstrate that actually, israel's ad defense systems on not very effective. and that quite capable of landing ballistic missiles as to saw on target in israel in a very short notice. yeah, blanket idea of censorship at the moment of the impacts and the results of it just of some ripple. it's a town of mays. we have 15, so we didn't have it in the f 35 and it had to him and based in israel, have 35 that fifteens and not a single is really casualty it'd be, is to be bought uh as regards the silver spring criticisms could be made that like that about certainly would've, i'm advantage over the libya to backlash over put in, allowing things to get to the stage. are they willing to hand stuff to them made on to and, and so forth. but is there a similar mistake being made by people who think that netanyahu is running the show
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here? i mean, we know by didn't said do may not. can megan in 1982. he wouldn't care. whole of 11 and civilians were killed. a was worse them and i can vague in the, in the atrocities in 1982 blinking off to october 7th. and he came to israel as a jew who was brought up of course by a lawyer and confidant of the most ads robot. maxwell is still a little money in britain from the pension fund, samuel piece us a piece are and i think is his name doing confident. and maxwell, is this a plan? was this a, a genocide jo plans in the beginning? because then, so then jake sullivan, of the national security council, the in the united states doesn't look so stupid. mode is blinking then your playing mazda strokes here, bringing the u. s, which always wanted to get involved. because clearly the us were involved in terms of the reaction to iran retaliation using the destroys in the, in the red sea. and they're prepared for it going forward. this was the plan all
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alone. it wasn't. i mean, i'm not, you only can say that about ukraine work that heavy. the dictators are lensky is losing, but this is the plan to exterminate costs. i think it's higher. so i think for as for, for a long time, i mean the plan about garza and the pon about the west bank. and of course, destroying this bullet has been known about for a long time. it is deeply entrenched in the israeli policy, and of course, netanyahu came to congress and elated to we're off very clearly. he said in vice here to america, to a war against the wrong. so you, if you like the head of the octopus. uh that is strangling in israel and he said this is, laura civilization begins bumper some so everyone knew that this was sort of in,
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in, in the works. now i think there are 2 elements to this that, you know, i don't think it's so directly because of the 1st really, is that i think the, the, i don't think good particularly the most the other parts of the system. but certainly not, you know, as a, the congress is old both in, unless of course, and other parts. the new cause of certainly all the dependent only is getting increasingly worried about over extension in the americas getting overextending. the, if you like, china is ramping up the pressure some in the pacific. they've got it more of a carrier in the field. so the pentagon wants to put more resources that, and it's still preoccupied with ukraine. and to have a wall payment with a ron allen in the middle east, with all its american bases with all its,
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um, uh, a few like exposure as far as her abilities or, i think it was not so popular. and i think that's probably what made the pentagon. i actually vito's the idea from bread and from others from being sent to a permit, the premiums to fall. so missiles deep into the deep into rush, although that could be okay. that could change the, the moment of goes by the time does the road i could have back to that can happen, particularly in an election period. well, you know, a good, i feel like political toll keep going. saw are essential and appearing tough on pigeon is considered to be the sort of from talking point to, to make supplement for, for by him and his team. but i'm just saying, i'm not sure. and i'm not sure at this moment if it's a good idea to have
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a wall with the wrong in terms of the electoral prospect of the policy and bar in the united states. i mean, that's a very complicated domestic calculation which depends on the soul. do you like the world composition of these 5 swain states and, you know, in some there are quite substantial numbers of muslims. they belong to them already . surely by now, with the pictures we've seen from gaza and lebanon, and the m, and a nice area. and there are things i, i think so, but i mean these 5 states, so very crucial. i mean the election, solano overall systems and the trying to recuperate. but i mean, actually they're getting the, digging that whole deeper and deeper with the statements that are being made and going to be uh how some last fall a is an iconic figure. there's been an iconic go. someone who has, you know,
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spend the low standing for national liberation and 2 colors. eliza, i mean to have been, you know, signs manifestations in cash, me a august of india and across the middle east, venezuela and, but came to verify that is last, you know, i do want to get off, chico is a time in the time limited to us i just want to say, why is it iran react using these traditional warfare means? i mean it's a long time since carlos, the jackal was operating against the, the owners of israel as it were, the back as of israel. where's the asymmetric warfare going? i only ask because if it is true that it was be just by design and that in fact, trump, who's being fed, that iran was behind his assassination attempt. and if the bible in any cases sponsor the genocide and cause, if that was if they had the powers behind it, rather than all this obsession in the progressive media are arguably against
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nothing yahoo a visit. the impetus now to attack the, the senses of power the, the metropolitan powers which are the senses of power, operating in west asia rather than using tel aviv. it was, i think, the pressing festival. what you're saying is partly true, but the let me know who it has carried a lot of blame for what's happening and everything runs as well as he was lost power or something. everything would be right. i don't think that this is necessarily the correct perspective because actually he has the support of a cabinet. he has enough support with in the capacity to survive until the 26. and he's made it always made it clear. i think he gave a, a, in an interview in the seventy's to hastings, the pricing a book. and he said,
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and the next for all being, well we will of take a girlfriend of expelled all of our skin in some arabs. and i think between the river and the sea. so i mean, he's been part of this for a long, long time. his father was a private 6th street to get the tense k, so he's a jump button ski revision is like most of the cabinet. and there is a majority of the trainings, it was obvious when this government came into par. and we saw the mizrahi, the jews that come from north africa in the middle east. what taking key positions . these were the people at the beginning, a broad festival into a go on and then tuesday, they cooled. and this is great. they feel, i mean, you know, that program said it will. it was obvious some time ago. what was the program to
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establish and the israel on? yeah, i mean is the program or a life? how is it indian state is the program of entity blinking actually blinking. so it's broken up by the kinds of people we haven't got that much time left. they all know assignments, we agree that by assign that's i don't think there's no difference on that. and i'm saying that actually, i mean what that is, the question is they've collectively deleted into this, or did they just facilitate fits as it, as a lot of the met him. yeah. who and then having to, i mean to be no restraints put on. it's not a tool. so is it a question of passive permission given the past because they're actively all they've signed another 9 busy and they have the pay 2 days before the 8th through the yeah, there's nothing faster about it and straight down very quick, very quickly. and finally, very quickly, finally, i should,
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i actually went through this with you about brittany's role with rebecca, teary, based on the british prime minister thing. he's all up left for it. and then, then denials that the you in the britain know a target for any resistance attack, should it become a symmetric and do strategic and outside of west asia. julian assigned you gave us so much information with the i suppose. i recall most importantly, babs at the moment, the memo from uh, jake sullivan's hillary clinton thing isis was on the us aside in syria as long as smoke for the 1st time about his torture and the counsel of your meeting this week . how far do you think his life is in danger away from all of these other big geostrategic topics? i mean, we did a lot of interviews with julian massage before his cafeteria and torture by the british, of course, but i can't tell. i mean, i can give you a notice or to, to view, but i don't think it is in danger. no,
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i think he's done it. his deal way out to say he even knows that he was a journalist and did some things, but i think that's probably as much as long come till the end of it. but i mean, who knows, i mean, those are the sort of the black areas of policy that you are not allowed to see. they all kept very much in the dark. i don't know, but i think i'm hopeful. anyways, he is. he's okay now as a drug. thank you and that's it for the show of continued condolences to those surviving u. k. u. s. u on violence here in the middle east will be back from or on washington's wall with the brand new episode on monday joined by the c. i is pulling the account to to retrieve dr. michael sure. until end, keeping josh wireless social media results sent to the annual country and it to our channel going on. we want to keep you hon. com to watching you and all that besides have going on the ground. see, monday, the
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test, the year ends being coming from administration continues to believe it can end the conflict in ukraine. trump and as people are beginning to understand ending this conflict is more difficult than starting a war. the problem is moscow cube and washington wants different outcomes the
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the chest to go down to the okay. and let me know what's gonna be going on there. you can only put that are right. yeah. and you can woke up with this cuz i can use that as and we could come with the before them, we started a deal for you. okay, now, just to mcgill and because of the most of the lease k e by nath. neither given them
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